Session Start: Fri Sep 19 13:12:07 2003 Session Ident: #menzoberranzan * Now talking in #menzoberranzan * ChanServ sets mode: +ntr * ChanServ changes topic to 'Welcome to the new Menzoberranzan Chat! (Rizogue) | Meeting time Sep 19, 3:00 pm EST (FacelessOne) (FacelessOne)' * ChanServ sets mode: -ahoq FacelessOne FacelessOne FacelessOne FacelessOne * Disconnected Session Close: Fri Sep 19 13:12:59 2003 Session Start: Fri Sep 19 13:13:03 2003 Session Ident: #menzoberranzan * Now talking in #menzoberranzan * ChanServ sets mode: +ntr * ChanServ changes topic to 'Welcome to the new Menzoberranzan Chat! (Rizogue) | Meeting time Sep 19, 3:00 pm EST (FacelessOne) (FacelessOne)' * ChanServ sets mode: -ahoq FacelessOne FacelessOne FacelessOne FacelessOne Session Close: Fri Sep 19 13:13:17 2003 Session Start: Fri Sep 19 13:13:23 2003 Session Ident: #menzoberranzan * Now talking in #menzoberranzan * ChanServ sets mode: +ntr * ChanServ changes topic to 'Welcome to the new Menzoberranzan Chat! (Rizogue) | Meeting time Sep 19, 3:00 pm EST (FacelessOne) (FacelessOne)' * ChanServ sets mode: +o FacelessOne * Retrieving #menzoberranzan modes... * FacelessOne changes topic to 'Welcome to the new Menzoberranzan Chat! (Rizogue) | Meeting time Sep 19, 3:00 pm EST |' * FacelessOne changes topic to 'Welcome to the new Menzoberranzan Chat! (Rizogue) | Meeting time Sep 19, 3:00 pm EST (FacelessOne) |' * Guest has joined #menzoberranzan Yo! * Guest is now known as Rizogue * Rizogue has left #menzoberranzan * Rizogue has joined #menzoberranzan * ChanServ sets mode: +q Rizogue * ChanServ sets mode: +o Rizogue Yere's ya a quote to remember: yo private me if you need to talk to me Grrr. No paste in the applet i'm on mirc i set the log channel on so i'll have everything OK. been here for some time now... lol was testing things out and stuff... go the contract finished, wanna see? Sure. you on msn? No. I'm at home. errrr. Work You check the PM I sent you yet? yeah didn't understand the first line we would like for you to do a feature on the laptop that can be accessible. (archived)So what I’d like to see is – If you were to use a system for review – would you want the desktop or laptop? Do you not have the contract in an online format to show everyone? will put the word doc online, hold on brb Like I said, she is Asian, and there is a slight communication barrier, but I'm blasting through it. Basicly I told her if I had the choice, I would like to review the desktop tower model. what do you mean, review the desktop model? review games on a desktop? do you have to write the reviews? http://sws.mnstate.edu/garciath/Menzo/contract.doc link to the contract rough draft Yes, I will review and of the D&D games, like the new Temple of Elemental Evil I just got, and put it on the site, with a logo that says "Reviewed on Alienware." oh ok... kinda like what Syl does with the new games in Skullport... i get it did you opne the link? When I get the machine, I will do a system review on it, and the logo will direct folks to the review of the PC I will have. and test all the game son that machine i assume... games on Yes, and yes. i think it's game man... great deal! and what d you think about the contract? I'm about 2/3 through it. k let me know Looks good. good! Hopefully I will resolve the email thing early next week. My domain provider said it will be 48 hours for the dns server to recognize the email url. took me the whole morning... thinking about it anything you want to add/change on top of your head? I guess you saw Magnus' absence notice... We'll get the guys opinions, and see if we need to change anything. well, nobody signed the contract lol Hehehe You win your game? aigh... i think it's just something written down, sort of guidelines... good for everyone we tied O and I have a job interview in 2 hours... so they should be logging on pretty soon... Hopefully, like I said, I have to leave for the post office in a little over 1 hour. And I'm sponsoring (buying steaks) for dinner at the in-laws tonight, so it will be late before I'm back. well I don't expect it to be over 2 hours anyway... want me to go thru the agenda with you just in case you want to add something? Sure. 1. Introduce the Menzo Project... with a deadline April 13th, 2004 see if it's doable... discuss, blablabla 2. Contract... let them read the link, etc... opinions, comments, blablabla You talk a little about email aliases, etc 3. Teams... you talk a little about teaming up dividing the guys, etc... I have the titles we were going thru with me... we'll see what they agree on 1 will include your school project info and promotion to project manager, and your new resonsibilities? 4. PW... What can we do w/o HotU and are we going to use expansion packs? or just NWN (latest patch) + ahks haks adopting a standard for our builders / scripters discussion open, blablabla 5. Menzoberranzan Well, I think Hordes will be hugely helpful in the creature abilities for some of their new creatures. well, we'll se what the others agree on, etc... anyway We can use the NWVault ones, but I am sure the official ones from Bioware will be much better. Poly's Beholder looks great, but I don't know how well it actualy "works" 5. Menzo... divide the server into maps * Rizogue nods. each District will be a map Right. I want to start focusing on the Menzo map from the boxed set... OK. just get each district layed out first, on a map... graphically I wonder if ALFAs scan Heero did is still available online? dunno we cna come up with something else... These Taaaaardy bastages! anyway just working as a group, first building areas... lol yeah see why we need a contracT? Johnny Dangerously. Yea. lemme check the old chat just in case... Heh. K. * Rizogue didn't think of that. nop, nobody there Well, my watch is fast... it's 2:05 here meeting time I invited RavenLord as well, he should be helping some more with scripting toward the end of the year... well eben is online PM him to hop in here. anyway, number 6 on my list is to give first assignments... and that's about it.. done well... refreshed and he's gone... Well, in my opinion all first assignments should be given to get Mithril Hall done, so we can get the PW going. i agree since they have already started on that one... * Rizogue nods I'll have Sorn working on the Menzo maps. I want a list of the places per District, as well as each district's maps and these respective places It will draw more folks to the site, and maybe onto the team, via announcements on the Vault, and a semi-permanent presence in the gamespy server list. That's cool so we can flesh out the districts... just outside menzo first then we can go to Tier Breche... and each major house later... and then guild halls / minor houses and of course bregan d'aerthe * Rizogue nods. :applause: * FacelessOne grins you think it can be done that way? I think it's the best way... I think so. and i think we should keep away from expansions... Basicly: create all the areas, lnk them together, then sweep accross the map in phases filling in interior areas, then populating them all with NPCs...? * RaveN has joined #menzoberranzan RaveN. yo yes rizo Aggreed. and i think each house should be a separate map as well so we don't have to model the outside buildings, etc... The insides of them should, yes. Well. When they are in the midle of an area, they will be a major fixture of the area... how are you going to put a model of castle baenre? With the expansion. :D didn't see anything extraordinaire Well, I've got a plan for Janus, once he finishes with Gribo's set. what's the plan Have you seen Bodangly's final release of his desert city? hno * RaveN has quit IRC (Ping timeout) You should check that one out. It has some really cool architecture that could be reskinned, and make nice underdark buildings. who did it? can you use it? Bodangly did it, and released it on the vault, so usualy that means it's fair game for a reskin. I got Gribo's permission, but he needs a big special thanks for it. Some of his tiles make a real difference in Demona's tileset. well... i'll have the hardware and software to work out some custom 3D stuff and tilesets as well, man... and I cna dedicate some of my time to create unique views of the 8 major houses... or the major constructions in menzo... like Narbondel and stuff That's another argument for the expansion. We won't be thanking CODI for the mind flayers, Polyhedral for the beholders, H2ORat and LunaC for the driders, etc. Cool. If I can learn to use it, and really get this computer, I can try to do some of that to. I have 3DSM 5 now. I think it's 5.. maybe 6. Is there a 6? not sure might be the reason I think ahks are better is for the money issue... and the ability of having custom stuff that we did... plus we'll know exactly waht we want done, etc... * RaveN has joined #menzoberranzan unless in the future they include more of those tiles and creatures in their patches... which I believe they would... Well, we can still have our own tilesets and HAKs as well as Bioware content. They have not proven to do that in the past. No real SoU exclusive stuff has been released. Demona's tileset looks really good beside theirs. Have I shown you the capture I made? * RaveN has quit IRC (Ping timeout) nop Well, I'm glad WE got to talk about this. ;) that sucks I know wasting our time here... i could've gone to class and shit work... I can't find it on the server. I will mail it to you from my recliner when I get home tonight. :D i took the day off for this.. aigh Well, I'm at work. i'm not... So wasting time here isn't a big deal to me. * RaveN has joined #menzoberranzan i don't get paid, cuz I'm home sooo... got a little disappointed I know. really worked hard to get this meeting going and shit... Well Eben sent me a message that said he can't chat from school. (He's in Washington, so it's still school-time there. ok... wonder what happened to Haevlyn and Ustalth And that means Random is still in school too. Dunno. was kinda counting on them too to show up * RaveN has quit IRC (Quit: ) oh well, it's all on the log, so I'll put it online regardless... they can read this and agree or disagree... Haevlyn's in forums. Sent a PM. oh good... He's one of the major assets that we want signed up for this thing. * archeron has joined #menzoberranzan boom boom boom shake the room :p Ust! eho? * archeron is now known as Haevlyn :p SwOh. Yo. heh That name is similar to an Ust alias. ah fair enough what's his alias? and i thought british ppl use to come to meeting son time Can't remember, he was in here using it the other night. Heh erm... I was having dinner legitimate excuse number one fine... still waiting for the others then... Well, let's cover things with him fast, Post Office time is closing in. The floor is ours, Faceless. 30 mins yours k... Let me introduce then... *clears throat* Rizogue and I are planning on taking the Menzoberranzan.net project a little more seriously and professionally. right I (as multimedia major) have this Senior Project to work on, and I offered Rizogue to manage the Menzoberranzan project if I could showcase it as a Senior Project fair deal my advisor is backing me up all the way, and I'll have a machine (raid) to install NWN and mod build / assemble / 3D model from school But this is the deal... * Ustalth has joined #menzoberranzan evening oops I'm here, finally something unexpected came up only just started I see take a seat and listen to faceless let me copy/paste for ustalth Let me introduce then... *clears throat* Rizogue and I are planning on taking the Menzoberranzan.net project a little more seriously and professionally. right I (as multimedia major) have this Senior Project to work on, and I offered Rizogue to manage the Menzoberranzan project if I could showcase it as a Senior Project fair deal my advisor is backing me up all the way, and I'll have a machine (raid) to install NWN and mod build / assemble / 3D model from school But this is the deal... *whoosh* (with me?) (nm, carry on) I need to count on a team to do this, as I can't do it alone. And since I'm putting my student ass on the line, I asked Rizogue if we could take this project "professionally" deadline? He agreed on it, and we decided to come up with some sort of a "contract" for those of you who want to continue on the production of MEnzo.net i'm in I might want to here the contract first The project goes beta on April 13, 2004 april??? pah! that's too much time I'd say Jan 1st the more time, the better I got a rough draft for you guys online, we can always modify stuff... okay, continue It doesn't give me your souls or anything, it's more like a term of agreement that you will be "there" until the deadline... within all good reasons of course I'll put the link so you can check it out quickly so we can start iscussing our first item on the agenda, "contract" http://sws.mnstate.edu/garciath/Menzo/contract.doc (take some time to go over it) (it's just a draft... subtle to change based on your ideas) I'm having some trouble opening the page in MIRC typing in page now oops sent a DCC... let me just type it in, faceless k rejected automatically :( How do you propose to assign me tasks? (out of curiosity) For instance, you if would be part of the Programming Team... yea.. The Team Leader would assign you to fix some script, modify, etc... that's alright then you would then say how long would it take, roughly, to do it, and we would hold you to that deadline... estimating how much time it would take, but I think we can work on a 2-week basis... or 20 hours worth of work... more than that should be revised... or split among team members You still can't see it, Ust? is multiple teaming possible? I saw it Absolutely downloaded it multiple teaming? excellent sometimes the work will intertwine and the more help the better as long as we keep it focused on one goal at a time well, I was learning from the tutorials to script before my hard disk got wiped Do you have all of the teams yet? okay good we'll try to multitask as much as possible, until we have more ppl joining in Rizogue has another announcement, concerning email aliases read through it... there's a typing error on line 2 of paragraph point 5. * RaveN has joined #menzoberranzan By the way, I still need to find 2 nwn disks before I can work on anything "Manzberranza.net" 2? hi people why two? hello raven raven... I have the 2nd install disk need play disk and 1st install where do you live ust? is going to help scripting ina few months, when his RL becomes less eventful east coast US what happened to your original ones? ok faceless no no no, I need to FIND them My proposal for hierarchy is this: in my house Project Admin * RaveN has quit IRC (Quit: Bye bye) Project anager (oh okay ust) Lead Programmer / Custom Content Team Leader / Module Development Team Leader then individual Team Members ie: Programming Team Member, etc. you're admin, faceless is manager? nods This reminds me of work... We're having an IT reshuffle and there are little boxes where they promise they haven't put names... but you know they exist already... Who's Lead Programmer then? I think Haevlyn should get the Lead Programmer Position. I agree with that Can do... agreed Ust should be Module Development Leader, as far as I know... With what I have seen from Janus, I think he should be Custom Content Team Leader. Sounds good * Rizogue nods. I'd like to see whatever hak he's using for building We're about 80% or more on that. k u've got to go in 3 mins... He said he'll do some screenies soon. Me too. Head Module Development? OK. Also, as you read in the contract, I am in the process of registering my mail server, and granting the team @menzoberranzan.net email addresses, with a Web Mail interface. could we have pop/smtp access on that as well? Yes, it will. that's great then excellent agreed.. can you guys feel exactly how this is going to be from now on? oh yes this is serious stuff now... :) Like Avlis, only better :) we'll get there... Squeezing it in in this short amount of time was not quite per-agenda, but we covered most of the topics we had on the list. Ok, if the contract/email item is over with, I'd like to move on... At least the two of you (who were to become team leaders) got in here. Time's almost up for me and Haevlyn... oh... I see... no no, it's you that has to go i'm at home i've got another 5 hours if i need them haha, wanna assign anything for this 2week, Rizo? before oyu go, PM me Well I'm looking at the treasure script now ... it's too big, i'm actually scared of it... OH. MITHRIL HALL. We need to get Ustalth installed. ustalth installed? how do those two fit together? And get the areas begun. 1 big sweep paining terrain, then we will go in and fill in details, once we have many linked underdark areas. looking for discs now Mithril Hall is intended to be a disposable introduction for our server. yea, speaking of mithril hall while I finish a proposal with the proper steps for the menzo construction can i leave the mod-building to someone else? so I can focus on the scripts... The characters will not be transfered to the PW. This will be used to test our base scripts in a multi-player online environment, and give our players something to do (and new players a reason to check us out.) and if i finish the scripts then I'll jump onto mod-building... yea, a taster I am so disappointed in me the 1st install disk was in the same case as the 2nd, but under it Yes, but if you get to a point where we are happy with the scripts enough to do this hack & slash, I would like you to pause on scripting, and get this done. now the play disk should not be far away lol ustalth lol tried the cd rom? because you might have been playing it? yep It should be a DM-less race against time through some serious monsters, with dwarves at your back. race against time? More to come on that Haevlyn, once we determine what we can do as far as how long the player has been lost in the Underdark.... Maybe have a huge patrol of dwarves overcome them if the stall too long... err, that's no problem